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No seed for WSU, let's see where they land.
MSU should have been ahead of NDSU, with no FCS losses compared with NDSU.
MSU should have been ahead of NDSU, with no FCS losses compared with NDSU.
Tube Socks said:I like the first round matchup with North Dakota but it's BS that we have a second round rematch with the underseeded Bobcats. We should have been in the bracket with the 6, 7 or 8 seed (assuming we stop all the critical mistakes and get past North Dakota).
I'm with you 100%. The margins between a good team and a great team are quite small. Can we be a great team? Sure, just stop shooting ourselves in the foot so often. We are talking about young men here, so perfection is not to be expected. Just limit the brain farts to a couple per game, that's all.Waldo said:The perfect game.
All season, Coach Hill has talked about playing a “perfect game .” This means not beating ourselves with penalties, turnovers, dropped passes, missed assignments, errant snaps, etc. These issues clearly played major roles in the two losses and close calls against NAU, UCD, and the grizzlie$
The closest we came to a perfect game is against USU.
If (and this is a big if) the team gets out of their own way and plays a “perfect game “, I like our chances against any team in the field.
cats2506 said:Here is my conspiracy theory;
The Big Sky rep on the committee (Haslem UM) sold out the rest of the Big Sky to get his team in the field so he didn't have to fire Bobby. None of the metrices they are supposed to use have NDSU above the Bobcats, Weber earned a seed.
Beat UND and lets settle this. neither team had good games the first go around.
This sucks for me, WSU is is my second favorite BSC team, I would rather have you on the other side and see you in Frisco.
cats2506 said:Here is my conspiracy theory;
The Big Sky rep on the committee (Haslem UM) sold out the rest of the Big Sky to get his team in the field so he didn't have to fire Bobby. None of the metrices they are supposed to use have NDSU above the Bobcats, Weber earned a seed.
Beat UND and lets settle this. neither team had good games the first go around.
This sucks for me, WSU is is my second favorite BSC team, I would rather have you on the other side and see you in Frisco.
Waldo said:Couple of random questions/thoughts. I don't want to get ahead of the MSU game (must take care of things on Saturday), but, I am thinking if Gardner-Webb pulls an upset over William & Mary, would Weber host the game? Would the site be determined by a bid to host the game? Ranking? A coin flip?
Second, if William & Mary win, I am seeing airfare to Raleigh, NC for $170 or DC for $150 - tempted to make the trip. Again, must win on Saturday or this discussion is moot.
N.OgdenCat said:Who cares about the bid? Weber was and is the better team. Had better, and more wins than UND. And its losses were to two top 5 teams teams by a combined 8 points. The Cats should have been hosting even if UND bid $1M against $1. Two major issues wrong with how the NCAA selects and runs this tournament. One, why are teams even bidding? Is the NCAA really money poor? The association made $1.16B in 2021 and is set to make almost $3B in 2022 (supposedly a non-profit). I have a feeling they can afford a few charters with the home team splitting lodging and transportation fees. Those fees would be far lower than any bid (from what I understand, UND gave the NCAA $150K for a home game and doesn't get that back). Its corrupt, but to keep the NCAA happy, it can still take 85% of ticket sales to help "support the tournament."
Next, I'm upset about this regionalization garbage. If the NCAA is fine with sending two FBS teams (Miami Ohio vs. UAB) to play in an absolutely inconsequential bowl game in the Bahamas, it should be able to send equal member institutions anywhere in the nation to play in a real playoff deciding an actual national champion. USE Actual seeds. Why the hell are two Big Sky schools playing each other in the second round? This is the third time this has happened to Weber in recent playoff history. Personally, I think it is set up this way more to protect weaker conferences than it is about saving money.
Change needs to happen. I think every Big Sky school, sans Montana, can agree that Haslam should not be part of the selection committee. Send ISU's AD. She really doesn't have a dog in the fight. Haslam was dishonest and used his position to get UM in, and then to get a home game when the GRIZZ did not earn or deserve it. How many schools got screwed over because of this SEMO, UCD, etc etc etc.
N.OgdenCat said:Who cares about the bid? Weber was and is the better team. Had better, and more wins than UND. And its losses were to two top 5 teams teams by a combined 8 points. The Cats should have been hosting even if UND bid $1M against $1. Two major issues wrong with how the NCAA selects and runs this tournament. One, why are teams even bidding? Is the NCAA really money poor? The association made $1.16B in 2021 and is set to make almost $3B in 2022 (supposedly a non-profit). I have a feeling they can afford a few charters with the home team splitting lodging and transportation fees. Those fees would be far lower than any bid (from what I understand, UND gave the NCAA $150K for a home game and doesn't get that back). Its corrupt, but to keep the NCAA happy, it can still take 85% of ticket sales to help "support the tournament."
Next, I'm upset about this regionalization garbage. If the NCAA is fine with sending two FBS teams (Miami Ohio vs. UAB) to play in an absolutely inconsequential bowl game in the Bahamas, it should be able to send equal member institutions anywhere in the nation to play in a real playoff deciding an actual national champion. USE Actual seeds. Why the hell are two Big Sky schools playing each other in the second round? This is the third time this has happened to Weber in recent playoff history. Personally, I think it is set up this way more to protect weaker conferences than it is about saving money.
Change needs to happen. I think every Big Sky school, sans Montana, can agree that Haslam should not be part of the selection committee. Send ISU's AD. She really doesn't have a dog in the fight. Haslam was dishonest and used his position to get UM in, and then to get a home game when the GRIZZ did not earn or deserve it. How many schools got screwed over because of this SEMO, UCD, etc etc etc.
Chex said:N.OgdenCat said:Who cares about the bid? Weber was and is the better team. Had better, and more wins than UND. And its losses were to two top 5 teams teams by a combined 8 points. The Cats should have been hosting even if UND bid $1M against $1. Two major issues wrong with how the NCAA selects and runs this tournament. One, why are teams even bidding? Is the NCAA really money poor? The association made $1.16B in 2021 and is set to make almost $3B in 2022 (supposedly a non-profit). I have a feeling they can afford a few charters with the home team splitting lodging and transportation fees. Those fees would be far lower than any bid (from what I understand, UND gave the NCAA $150K for a home game and doesn't get that back). Its corrupt, but to keep the NCAA happy, it can still take 85% of ticket sales to help "support the tournament."
Next, I'm upset about this regionalization garbage. If the NCAA is fine with sending two FBS teams (Miami Ohio vs. UAB) to play in an absolutely inconsequential bowl game in the Bahamas, it should be able to send equal member institutions anywhere in the nation to play in a real playoff deciding an actual national champion. USE Actual seeds. Why the hell are two Big Sky schools playing each other in the second round? This is the third time this has happened to Weber in recent playoff history. Personally, I think it is set up this way more to protect weaker conferences than it is about saving money.
Change needs to happen. I think every Big Sky school, sans Montana, can agree that Haslam should not be part of the selection committee. Send ISU's AD. She really doesn't have a dog in the fight. Haslam was dishonest and used his position to get UM in, and then to get a home game when the GRIZZ did not earn or deserve it. How many schools got screwed over because of this SEMO, UCD, etc etc etc.
Amen to everything you said! Committee sets up East coast conferences brackets to advance their crappy teams. If Weber State was the highest rated unseeded team (which everyone believes they deserved a seed), why did they draw a tough North Dakota team instead of a St. Francis? I’d be upset if UC Davis, they played Sac State tough and Montana got blown out, and Montana’s AD probably bargained away a seed for Weber State bracketed in with Montana State to get his team in. Definitely shouldn’t be an AD of a playoff eligible or bubble team. It really is corrupt, but still miles better than FBS’s Dog and Pony show because it can be settled in the field once you get in.