stingthemgood
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Both lines are getting absolutely owned. We would give up 4 yards every time if they just ran HB Dive the rest of the game.
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Week 12 - #8 Sac State at Causeway
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GreenArmySwarm
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GreenArmySwarm said:
Carson should not be playing.
stingthemgood
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Carson on the road has been a different player. Any of us (maybe except SuperHornet) could have thrown it to Martin for a TD on that fourth down.
GreenArmySwarm
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stingthemgood said:
The one good play that Fresques called and Carson blew it. The true freshman is showing why most programs don’t start true freshmen. The moment might be too big for the 18 yo. Kaiden needs to play in the second half.
GreenArmySwarm
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Davis is getting help from the refs now too. PI not call. Roughing the passer, not call. Sideline ref was literally smiling while calling turnovers on down.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
stingthemgood
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aggiemba said:
Go fuck yourself you stupid bitch
21-31 Hornets loss. I picked up the game late in the 2nd quarter and it was obvious that the Hornet coaches did not have this team ready for this game. Credit to the dungpile defense for shutting the Hornets down for most of the game. The Hornets were clearly outcoached and I think they played themselves out of the playoffs as well. This Hornet team doesn’t deserve to see the postseason.
I’m off the Coach Freques band wagon. I understand that you want to get the freshman quarterback experience as he is the future of the program, but not going with Kaiden Bennett in these weather conditions shows that Fresques learned nothing from the Montana loss. This is probably the most concerning aspect of the game. There were other glaring concerns as well, not taking points at the end of the 1st half was an awful mistake. Points are a premium in any game, especially the Causeway. The coaching staff also passed up on a field goal midway in the 3rd quarter. Then having the ball in positive territory and calling a reverse flea-flicker is the epitome of typical Hornet play calling in a Causeway. Coach Fresques needs to be better, and I fear he isn’t going to get better given what we’ve seen down the back stretch of this season.
Hornet defense kept the Hornets in the game as this shouldn’t have been as close as it was in the 4th quarter (2 possessions). But that big pass play for a touchdown late in the 4th was horrendous play. The Hornet defense fell apart in garbage time.
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWawT1hd8k
Full Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhyVgdK13k
I’m off the Coach Freques band wagon. I understand that you want to get the freshman quarterback experience as he is the future of the program, but not going with Kaiden Bennett in these weather conditions shows that Fresques learned nothing from the Montana loss. This is probably the most concerning aspect of the game. There were other glaring concerns as well, not taking points at the end of the 1st half was an awful mistake. Points are a premium in any game, especially the Causeway. The coaching staff also passed up on a field goal midway in the 3rd quarter. Then having the ball in positive territory and calling a reverse flea-flicker is the epitome of typical Hornet play calling in a Causeway. Coach Fresques needs to be better, and I fear he isn’t going to get better given what we’ve seen down the back stretch of this season.
Hornet defense kept the Hornets in the game as this shouldn’t have been as close as it was in the 4th quarter (2 possessions). But that big pass play for a touchdown late in the 4th was horrendous play. The Hornet defense fell apart in garbage time.
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWawT1hd8k
Full Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhyVgdK13k
The team this year just isn’t well coached. I feel bad for the seniors to go out like this. They panicked from the beginning (even when down 7 pts) which makes you think they lack preparation. I don’t think coach Thompson realizes how important the Causeway classic is to the alumni. If he did, he wouldve had the team on point today. Not a deserving playoff team. Feels like the Stanford win was too draining, it took out all the juice from this team.
HeavyistheClown
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Boo!
Bodega Joe
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I know it’s easy to coach from the TV. I acknowledge it’s a very competitive game to coach at this level. BUT it seems obvious by many of the comments here that we got out coached. My concern is whether or not our coaches are not adjusting to reality:
1. No doubt Conklin is a great talent. But if he’s not quite ready then why put him in as a starter when he’s not quite ready? Are we setting him up for success?
2. Why focus on a passing heavy offense when we have such a strong running game, especially in rainy/windy conditions? Why not go with Bennett much earlier where we have the dual threat advantage?
3. Our success IMO lies in our ability to run first with Bennett as the QB. We ran well against most of our opponents this season. Our defense isn’t dominant but I feel we’re good enough to bend and not break if we chew up the clock.
Thoughts? I imagine some of you have coaching backgrounds. I’d be curious to hear some thoughts.
1. No doubt Conklin is a great talent. But if he’s not quite ready then why put him in as a starter when he’s not quite ready? Are we setting him up for success?
2. Why focus on a passing heavy offense when we have such a strong running game, especially in rainy/windy conditions? Why not go with Bennett much earlier where we have the dual threat advantage?
3. Our success IMO lies in our ability to run first with Bennett as the QB. We ran well against most of our opponents this season. Our defense isn’t dominant but I feel we’re good enough to bend and not break if we chew up the clock.
Thoughts? I imagine some of you have coaching backgrounds. I’d be curious to hear some thoughts.
Super Hornet 2.0
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As one with a rather limited coaching background (two years coaching JV, one each at Sacramento-Capital Christian and Yucca Valley in the late '90s and '00s), I do have some thoughts, Joe, though by no means do I claim to be expert. I'm not a fan of modern offenses in general, but I would agree with you on all three points. At the professional level, IF THE SEASON SEEMS SHOT, one might make the switch for talent evaluation. But not only is Sac not a professional team, the season was far from shot. It might well be now. (I say MIGHT because 7-4 might well be good enough to get us a first round road game, though a seed and bye is definitely out the window now.)
Weather IS a primary factor in deciding what plays to call. While one does have to throw SOME, when it's wet and windy, establishing a running game is even more important. If one has a valid running quarterback, using him is even more of an imperative.
I'm not sure a two-quarterback system would have been effective as it was in the last couple of years, simply because of the general consensus that Conklin wasn't anywhere near ready. While I like the idea of playing the backup for one series in the second quarter so that the starter can get another perspective of what's happening out there, unless you have a pair of quarterbacks like Waterfield and van Brocklin (at the professional level, or, in our case, Dunniway and O'Hara), a two-quarterback system often does not work. And the difference between seasons couldn't be more stark. The switch from Dunniway to O'Hara and back seemed to be a bit more planned and smooth in most cases, whereas the switch between Bennett and Conklin seemed to be rather knee-jerk.
For the board overall, the best football minds, in my evaluation, are SD and Sting. I'd be interested in seeing their evaluations.
Weather IS a primary factor in deciding what plays to call. While one does have to throw SOME, when it's wet and windy, establishing a running game is even more important. If one has a valid running quarterback, using him is even more of an imperative.
I'm not sure a two-quarterback system would have been effective as it was in the last couple of years, simply because of the general consensus that Conklin wasn't anywhere near ready. While I like the idea of playing the backup for one series in the second quarter so that the starter can get another perspective of what's happening out there, unless you have a pair of quarterbacks like Waterfield and van Brocklin (at the professional level, or, in our case, Dunniway and O'Hara), a two-quarterback system often does not work. And the difference between seasons couldn't be more stark. The switch from Dunniway to O'Hara and back seemed to be a bit more planned and smooth in most cases, whereas the switch between Bennett and Conklin seemed to be rather knee-jerk.
For the board overall, the best football minds, in my evaluation, are SD and Sting. I'd be interested in seeing their evaluations.
stingthemgood
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Herder has us as the last team in. I don’t see us getting in over both UIW and Holy Cross. But maybe I’m wrong.
stingthemgood said:
https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-playoff-predictions-final-bzbz/
If it came down to us and UIW for the final spot, we'd get in over them. I have no idea about the others though. I think I read our SOS is 21, we have a P5 win over Stanford and a win over Southland Champ Nicholls (UIW lost to them) and being ranked in the top 10 for most the year as the committee now considers rankings. What's wild would be getting in over an 8 win UT Martin and/or Eastern Illinois. I guess we'll see how much value being in a power conference really has.
HeavyistheClown
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It is in a hvac controlled bubble. No need to bundle up, but there is a need for the Hornets HC/OC to show up.
