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Death By Realignment

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First thought- the clock ticks on the presence of UC Davis football in the Big Sky. The remaining sports just announced moving to the Mountain West. So while Sac State made all this noise the last few months, are they really able to head out?

First aside- the utter emotionality of the Montana board and the Idaho board on this and related topics versus the stunning rationality of the Davis board is a massively disconcerting- and almost hilarious- contrast.

Second… what opportunities are available to the Montana schools?

Third… since Portland State is almost certainly going nowhere fast, is there a forward to go in? The Montana State visit this year drew an announced 3,121, when previous seasons seemed to draw more Bozangeles fans. So PSU can hardly draw away fans anymore.

So I actually went to a Southern Oregon game last month. Bigger crowds than Portland State… surely by the eye test. Filled the stadium? Not close, and this was against supposed regional rival Eastern Oregon. Price points? Oh, hell no, and for all the growth going on down in the Rogue Valley, the notion of them hosting a sporting event with tickets priced more than $17 seems foreign to them. But is Portland State running more than an NAIA program in D-1? Maybe more like NCCAA?

Anyway, still frustrated, not certain the Big Sky will be what it is in 5 years, and wondering what this program is even doing.
 
I think all lot of D1 athletic programs share your sentiment. This includes FBS. The House settlement and NIL eliminated having a thin small budget athletic program that can punch above its weight as a reality. The new scholarship limits are a huge immediate jump in funding. And those not robust enough will have to decide what athletics, especially with football, looks like at their campus.

FCS football is great, but the portal and lack of support will make it really tough to just get by.
 
If PSU can't afford football, they won't be able to afford the other sports. Per Barnum last night, the athletic department relies on football to bring in a million dollars in money games to cover the budget for the other sports. Basketball is not lighting the world on fire here either, so without football, where would the athletic department find the million it needs to stay afloat?
 
bigskyconf said:
If PSU can't afford football, they won't be able to afford the other sports. Per Barnum last night, the athletic department relies on football to bring in a million dollars in money games to cover the budget for the other sports. Basketball is not lighting the world on fire here either, so without football, where would the athletic department find the million it needs to stay afloat?
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This has been the case for a while now, right? I recall Barnum saying that back in the good year of 2015.

Really wish PSU/UP could build more support around town for basketball rivalry games. Their last few games have been pretty good.
 
The myth that if PSU dropped football the entire Athletic Department would implode is just that, a myth. See https://www.pdx.edu/president/sites/president.web.wdt.pdx.edu/files/2022-01/CC Rpt_PSU_Final.pdf

In particular see page 151 of the report by Collegiate Consulting which states: "Collegiate Consulting developed a six-year expense pro forma without football, utilizing Portland State’s 2020 NCAA Financial Report to build out the subsequent years. In 2019-20, Portland State spent $15.35 million on athletics.

The pro forma explores the potential savings of dropping football in 2023-24, which would initially decrease athletic expenses to $10.8 million; this represents a $4.5 million or 30% reduction from the 2019-20 budget. By 2025-26, Collegiate Consulting project expenses at $11.17 million.
 
Alan1 said:
The myth that if PSU dropped football the entire Athletic Department would implode is just that, a myth. See https://www.pdx.edu/president/sites/president.web.wdt.pdx.edu/files/2022-01/CC Rpt_PSU_Final.pdf

In particular see page 151 of the report by Collegiate Consulting which states: "Collegiate Consulting developed a six-year expense pro forma without football, utilizing Portland State’s 2020 NCAA Financial Report to build out the subsequent years. In 2019-20, Portland State spent $15.35 million on athletics.

The pro forma explores the potential savings of dropping football in 2023-24, which would initially decrease athletic expenses to $10.8 million; this represents a $4.5 million or 30% reduction from the 2019-20 budget. By 2025-26, Collegiate Consulting project expenses at $11.17 million.
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Alan, you are looking at the effects of DI without football expense. You should be looking at the effects of DI athletics without the football revenue (starting on page 148). Paints a bleak picture for the rest of athletics. Men's basketball would have to pick up a big chunk of the loss.
 
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