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New Arena??

Post by Hornet Fever » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:14 am

It looks like the students are trying to push for a new student center and arena..it goes to vote on Dec. 2 and 3.The facility would be three stories tall and include 5,000 seats. The new arena on campus would go near the Well Center, just north of the five-story parking structure.To pay for it, students would have to increase tuition by $219 a semester


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Re: New Arena??

Post by Kadeezy » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:36 am

Vote yes you millennial morons! Just like we did in 2004!

Jeez, no pressure on Hornet Hoops to get off to a good, exciting a start, eh? The student athletes and ASI should be lobbying hard on campus for this with fliers, in uniform... Volleyball, basketball, gymnastics. Interact with the student body. Also emphasize the concerts, events, and more!
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Re: New Arena??

Post by Hornet25 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:26 am

The interior renderings aren't very pretty, but get it done. Just can't play in the current gym anymore. The bball program has a chance right now and that gym could put a ceiling on their growth.

And yes, because people are people, you have to remind them that the majority of events in the arena would not be basketball related.

Just wish they were going with 8k - 10k seats. Run the risk of coming up short of need in the future.

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Re: New Arena??

Post by Green Cookie Monster » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:42 am

There are 450+ student athletes, give or take a few. Considering that only 2-3,000 vote overall on campus, this could be a no brainer that if you play sports at Sac State you had better vote....and vote Yes!

Still bitter about 2004, we shall see what transpires.
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Post by josephpoint » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:54 pm

Wow.

What another amazing opportunity out of no where.

And it looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL. . Just think about Hornet Gym and you will see the beauty as well.

Could say a lot more but for now

Please, please, please

Vote YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will say my Hornet prayers for a new arena on Dec. 2nd and 3rd, 2014.

May the Sac State students of the Class of 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 be the classes to be remembered in a huge way.

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Re: New Arena??

Post by SDHornet » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:14 am

I would like for this to pass but I doubt it does. The stars were aligned when the event center referendum passed in 2004, and even then it barely passed. I don’t see the students ever agreeing to a $438 annual fee increase.

I think it is a mistake to put this back to a student vote, and the way to get this thing built was to do what they did last spring via the alternative consultation process pertaining to the successful 2004 referendum. A failed vote this December would burry any hope of a new arena for the next 10 years.

The other concerning issue is the haste behind this. So the “yes” folks have a month to convince enough students to come out and vote in favor of a major fee increase? Good luck with that. Smells eerily similar to that failed athletics fee increase that was trotted out a few years ago (and ultimately forcibly initiated by Gonzo).

Referendum Site: http://www.csus.edu/aba/SFAC/eventcenter.html

Event Center Renderings: http://www.csus.edu/aba/SFAC/Documents/ ... dering.pdf
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Re: New Arena??

Post by SDHornet » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:14 am

This week’s State Hornet article on the on-campus arena:
http://www.statehornet.com/news/arena-p ... mment-area
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Re: New Arena??

Post by josephpoint » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:37 pm

Think it is great that Sac State students are the ones now trying to get something done on campus for a new arena/events center.

Our president is doing nothing

Our athletic director is doing nothing

Our Hornet Club is doing nothing.

Our alumni are doing nothing. Including those alumni with very deep pockets.

Our community is doing nothing.

It's a long shot but at least these students are giving it a try.

And that is what is important.

Effort no matter how misguided is better than nothing.

And it might just work!!!

And agree that the whole issue of the WELL and the arena vote back in 2004 did not produce what the vote called for. That sucks huge. But trust, students for 35 years or more have been embarrassed by Hornet Gym being our so called basketball arena and largest gathering place on campus. Very sad and glad that something is in the works to change this.



Go Sac State students!!!

This appears to really be a Destination Campus. A school where now 50 percent of applicants are denied entrance.

May the students of Sac State show us the way!!!

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Post by Hornet25 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:41 pm

Any predictions for next weeks vote? I'm an optimistic person and want to say it will pass, but young people are generally not beating down doors to vote on anything. In addition, the people who are generally motivated to vote on anything are the ones who DON'T want something to pass.

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Re: New Arena??

Post by SDHornet » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:50 pm

I hope it passes but I have no expectations of it doing so. Low turnout probably favors the arena effort. I'm going with a 65-35 split against the arena.
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Re: New Arena??

Post by Super Hornet » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:27 pm

Even if it DOES pass, I would NOT be surprised to see the project cancelled and the $$ siphoned off for something else (like a raise for the President).

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Re: New Arena??

Post by SDHornet » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:44 pm

It’s a student fee specific for a facility, not a tuition increase. It can in no way be used for anything else. Do you even have a clue how these student fees work? A raise for the President can only come from the CSU via a tuition increase and not via a student fee.
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Post by josephpoint » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:55 pm

Was surprise to read that Sac State ranks number 10 among the state universities in tuition and fees. Figured all the campuses were about the same. The added fee for the event center would bring Sac State up to number 6 among the CSU schools from what I read.

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Re: New Arena??

Post by Green Cookie Monster » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:44 am

Even if the students vote this down Gonzalez has the Executive authority to grant approval/passage.

I am hopeful that in one of his last gestures he uses this action to grant approval and move Sac State out of 1957.

Not sure how a 5,000 seat arena is $125M though?
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Post by SDHornet » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:54 am

Last page has an article with Gonzo’s view on the vote: http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews ... 21.pdf.pdf

“Last year the University Union approached me about expanding the Union and The
Well,” said Gonzalez. “Part of the original Well included an event center.”
Although Gonzalez had the power to implement the fee and begin construction on
a new event center, he said he had not effectively heard the voice of students at Sac
State.
“The Union came and put everything on alternative consultation and brought the
results. Both the board of the Union board and the Student Fee Advisory Committee
recommended that I go ahead and implement the fee,” said Gonzalez.
After Gonzalez received the results, poor student participation and a lack of campus
opinion convinced him the only way to know if the students were willing to pay for a
new event center was by a referendum.
“I just didn’t feel comfortable with it,” said Gonzalez. “I discussed it with the chancellor;
the process was clean. It doesn’t mean you have to get a majority, it just means
that you have to go through the process. Basically I just didn’t feel comfortable [implementing
the fee]. The participation rate was so low. When I didn’t approve it last year,
I just felt the students needed to weigh in and let it go either up or down.”
“Every once in a while, I will go against the trend, but if I do that, it’s very seldom,”
said Gonzalez. “If they [students] vote yes, then we will move forward. If they vote no,
then it’s done.”
He is claiming that it is completely up to the vote. I feel that if he was going to forcibly push this through then he would have done so following the alternative consultation last spring. This vote just seems to be out of utter desperation.
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Re: New Arena??

Post by Green Cookie Monster » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:33 am

He claims he didn't force the vote last year because he had reached an agreement with the Kaiser not to raise tuition if the state allocated more $$$ to the CSU general fund. He was just being a good soldier and following orders.

This won't effect the current students (marginally) and Gonzo, so why not go out with a bang?
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Re: New Arena??

Post by Kadeezy » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:16 pm

Where are your balls, sir?!
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Re: New Arena??

Post by Hornet25 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Like everything, it takes good leadership and vision to get to the next level.

I don't know if the ability to raise fees on his own would extend to the next president, but if it does, this sickens me. If he's too afraid to do it, then let the next person do it. Don't just kill it. Either way, I think he's got no balls.

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Re: New Arena??

Post by Green Cookie Monster » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:44 am

If Sac is 10th in the CSU for this kind of funding, who are the schools ahead that have better vision and leadership?

SDSU, Fresno, SJSU, CP, Fullerton, LB, ??
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