Dixie State to BSC Inevitable?

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Dixie State to BSC Inevitable?

Post by GreenArmySwarm » Fri May 10, 2019 8:49 am

First, looks like Paul Peterson will get his chance to coach at the D1 level with Dixie State moving to the FCS from DII, so huge congrats to him and his family!

Second, I don't know if we've covered this but let's talk about Dixie State and their jump to the FCS. This is an obvious move to secure a spot in the Big Sky isn't it? They'll be moving up as an FCS Independent in football and WAC in all other sports. With the University situated in Utah, and the Big Sky HQ being in Utah and the Big Sky fondness of all Utah schools, (SUU during the last conference expansion), doesn't it feel like the only Independent in the West Coast is going to join the conference that just lost North Dakota? Personally, I wouldn't like this move. Trading North Dakota for Dixie State is a huge downgrade (tradition/recent play and all that jazz). It wouldn't benefit SAC in any way because it's not like we're recruiting the state of Utah for our players. if this becomes a reality, it'd just mean that the Big Sky stays bloated as a conference and that auto bid (good lord, if we EVER get it) would continue to be the most difficult at the FCS level.

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Re: Dixie State to BSC Inevitable?

Post by Kadeezy » Sat May 11, 2019 12:53 pm

Sac State will be the first D1 team to ever play at Dixie State in 2021. They’ll visit us in 2020.

I think it’s inevitable that they land in the sky, but I think there’s a desperate need for a second FCS West Coast Conference. Ever since the Great West went away, the BSC has been a hodge podge of legacy school and randos.

I would love to see a break off conference of:

Sac State/UC Davis, Portland State/EWU, Cal Poly/U. San Diego, NAU/SUU.

This would ensure conference play continuity,
And open weeks each year for schools to play other FCS schools OOC (like EWU and UM), or to rake in some money games.

The New BSC would look like:

Idaho/ISU, Weber/Dixie, UM/MSU, UNC/CSU Pueblo (jumps up too), UND/USD (baby come back!)

Just spitballing...

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Re: Dixie State to BSC Inevitable?

Post by Super Hornet » Sat May 11, 2019 1:10 pm

If we're going to bring in a D-II, I'd rather see School of Mines.

But that's beside the point. Kadeezy is right. We DO need a second conference out here so we can have a decent OOC schedule without having to schedule bodybag games, waste schedule time with D-II games, or do a dumb in-conference "OOC" game. That said, there are some I-AAA schools out there that I'd love to see resurrect football (notably UOP, LBSU, and CS Fullerton). Doing this from the construct of the Big West Conference would be pretty neat, but it COULD be done another way, too. Kadeezy's got a good idea there. I do like pulling U of San Diego out of the Pioneer, though that WOULD force them to embrace the idea of the athletic scholarship. I don't like the idea of including SUU so much, though I could see either Dixie or Mines in their place. Actually, geographically, it might be better to talk GCU into fielding football at the FCS level. They'd be a great travel partner for NAU....

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Re: Dixie State to BSC Inevitable?

Post by GreenArmySwarm » Mon May 13, 2019 6:27 am

Can't blame Dixie State for making this smart move.

The second that they saw that North Dakota was going to join their neighbors in the Summit/Missouri Valley Conference, Dixie immediately announce that they're going to D1 as they saw an opening in the Big Sky. But that's the LAST thing this conference needs. A DII jump up to dilute the SOS making it even HARDER to make the playoffs in a bloated conference.

At the end of the day, there's got to be a clean way to do this. Even if we split up the 14 football playing schools (that's including Dixie State), it's going to be difficult to split up the 12 Olympic BSC schools. The fact that there isn't enough FCS football school makes this split extremely difficult, unlike the mid-west and what we see with Summit/Missouri.

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Re: Dixie State to BSC Inevitable?

Post by SDHornet » Sun May 19, 2019 11:52 am

Pass on Dixie State (Hornets have already inked a home and home FB deal), but I admit they would be an ideal addition for the BSC given their past additions.

It would be great if an FCS FB only conference out west was formed.
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